Can John McCain carry California? Consult a new poll later today

No...John McCain will not win California and whatever poll suggests that is likely marred in bias. I can't believe this suggestion made "Google News".

Talk about a pointless, article this one takes the cake. WTF?

WISHFUL THINKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!

this paper needs to be sold and the editors FIRED.

Let's first see some debates between McCain and Obama. Obama is definately the better orator and McCain will find himself in a tight corner. I don't think California will become GOP stomping ground.

Why does the LA Times post EDT first, as though it were the standard? PST, people!

Polls right now don't mean very much

For the past two months both John McCain and Hillary Clinton having been lobbing rocks at Barack Obama
Through it all, he has managed to keep up if not forge ahead
Get Hillary out of the race and let Obama and McCain at it for awhile and let's just see what happens
McCain, like Clinton, is 'entitled' How dare he oppose veterans benefits all the while he is getting a 100% disability check
Being locked away in prison does not make one a war hero

The one thing that is left out of this article is an amendment that fights Gay marriage will be on the ballot. There will be a huge turn-out against Gay marriage that will help McCain. So, it's not McCains views as much as it's another issue that will bring out voters who would vote for McCain.

McCain will carry Arizona, probably.

Well, I guess the ploy worked. Drum up traffic to the site by basically putting a "teaser" article out there. Oh well, I guess the days of real media are gone and we are left with advertisers wrapped around the facade of being a news organization.

"Psst, we have something to tell you, but we can't say it now, although we are a news organization, you'll have to come back later so we can get more ad traffic...."

Oh well, fooled me once...

I am californian and will vote for McCain.

Oh, Come on people. Don't you understand that articles like this are run for the sole purpose of energizing the pro-Obama base? Liberal newspapers run stories like this all the time just to get you to the polls, so that their preferred candidate can win. And with some non-thinking Americans, it works. Reference this blog for instance.

Mccain is so fake. He says stuff just to fit the situation at hand. If he had some ethics and stood up to his beliefs i would have voted for him. For now obama seems like the real deal.

I think Obama supports think they cannot loose. The moderates will have to teach them a lesson in voting patterns again. It's pretty ugly when the DNC cannot remember the last 10 elections and how they lost 7 of them. Time to wake up DNC, you're loosing a voting base!

I have been saying for at least a month now that if the DNC nominates Obama that this race will be similar to the Bush / Dukakis year. Kennedy and Kerry and Oprah and Caroline Kennedy all supported and stumped for Obama in CA but HILLARY WON. The same is true with MA. We the voters of MA disregarded the opinion of Kennedy and Kerry and voted overwhelmingly for Hillary. We the voters of MA will elect McCain if Obama is the choice. Although many of us are starting a write in campaign for Hillary. Either way Obama will lose MA and CA.

DNC SHOULD WAKE UP AND DO THEIR ONLY JOB WHICH IS TO NOMINATE THE MOST ELECTABLE CANDIDATE HILLARY CLINTON.

"I am californian and will vote for McCain"

Then you are lost

I am a Californian (Latino) and my entire family and I will NOT vote for McCain! Go Obama!

uhh...
no
check out pollster.com
both dems hold a clear lead over Mccain

i believe this is very true. i know many democrats in california...they all say between obama and mccain they will choose mccain. and the funny thing is that i also know a couple hard core republicans in california and they say between obama and mccain they will choose obama.

If Obama is the nominee, he will lose Hispanics and Asians in California. He will also lose moderate Democrats. For Hispanics and Asians race will be a factor, and Obama's extreme liberalism will be a factor. Except on Iraq, McCain is just moderate enough to be an acceptable alternative to Obama.

Result -- he loses California.

If Hillary is the nominee California is a lock for the Democrats.

This page is a major tease, don't bother mentioning until the poll comes out. Also, it better suggest that McCain is at least very close, like within a few points, otherwise I'll be diappointed with the LA Times.

tlhwraith: Run flash block. Then you'll have the last laugh, as all their ads are annoying flash-based horrors, it gets rid of them all. Don't see why I should waste my system resources on other people's ads. I don't mind static images, but flash ads and animated gifs are just evil.

I don't know how you fooled the Google aggregator, but well done, sir. What a pointless lede.

Here's a more interesting question -- what happens if candidates are nominated and something happens to the presidential candidate before the general -- dies or goes nuts or something. Does the VP candidate become the presidential candidate for that party?

I am a Californian. I would say there is no way that I will vote for a Republican in this election. However, Obama changed that recently. I will vote for John MacCain this time and it will be the first time that I vote for a Republican in any election. Obama and Obamania just drive me away.

THERE IS ALSO A LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION AND SINCE HISPANICS DO THEIR HOMEWORK THEY WILL NOT SUPPORT OBAMA.

I have said this would be the case in CA for at least a month in these blogs and now there are several TV pundants jumping in and figuring out that it is a fact. Good old boys at the DNC will lose if they nominate the empty suit Obama.

Obama is a good speaker when he has a script. We have watched many debates and it is clear that unless Hillary answers first Obama has a very hard time with new questions. McCain will thump Obama in debates on the issues. And McCain will not give Obama six chances to denounce things like Hillary did. McCain will just use the foolish responses in commercials.

I would vote for McCain over Clinton and I'm a Democrat.

Of course, I am pretty sick of both parties and their lack of follow through on campaign promises.

I will vote for Obama though, it's time for change.

No matter what happens anywhere MCCain go home your r too old you are a liar and a racist and nobody in his right mind would vote for another 4 years of a Bush like similar regime enough of this joker...
as far as Obama is concerned his momentum is only based on his color of skin in any democrat's mind voting for Obama its like being human you know what I mean helping a minority beside that the real fighter and the real survivor of this new election is Clinton.She really has balls charisma and spirit because let me tell you she has been crucified several times she has been criticized every step of the way so keep going hon you ve got my vote...

Is this what newspapers have come to? Taughting us in soap-opera style "stay tuned when we might reveal the exciting conclusion". This article does not actually report anything. It just fans the flames of speculation -- is that the role of the LA Times now?

If HRC continues her insane attempt to destroy Obama and split the party just to satisfy her ego, then McCain will win California as the divided Dems stay home. Then the only hope for Obama in California will be to name either Feinstein or Richardson at VP.

I will vote for McCain over Obummer. I still think Hillary is the best choice though.

I lived in California for many years and my comment is: there are lots of nuts and crooks (I was told this last one by a banker) so you never know which was California will go. That's one screwed up state.

I think McCain will to carry California, if Obama is the nominee. It's possible that McC. will also carry New York State.

Once the American people discover the radical roots of Obama, disillusionment will set in. As Rev. J. Wright said, Obama is a politician and has to talk like one. He does, in fact. He is simply too radical for a majority of Americans, a fact which the liberal media will attempt -- but fail -- to cover up. And then there is Michele, angry, bitter, and -- dare I say it -- bitchy.

No.

A lot of Hillary Clinton supporters like myself should make California in play for John McCain.
Obama supporters are whistling past the graveyard if they believe California is a lock for Obama!

'make Google news' ??

As if the news were parsed by some Google news editorial department. ?

hello...?

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_20082/2008_presidential_election/california/election_2008_california_presidential_election2
38% McCain 52% Obama - from yesterday

Yes, yes, yes, McCain can and will win California against Barack Hussein Obama! At my workplace we are about 350 employees and about 90% of us have already decided that we will vote for Senator McCain over Barack Hussein Obama. The same goes for our county. The majority of Latinos in California will vote for Senator McCain because he is from a neighboring and border state, his values and ideals are similar to Latinos, and he understands Latinos whereas BHO does not. Majority of Latinos will not vote for BHO because of the friction between Latinos and African-Americans in the state. In California, Latino voter outnumber African-Americans. Bring it on!

Per James Last / May 23, 2008 at 09:03 a.m., "Obama is definately the better orator and McCain will find himself in a tight corner." Isn't that what happened to your heroe against Hillary Clinton on the ABC debate?

Rasmussen,the most trusted polltaker in America,has Obama leading McCain 52-38 as of yesterday.. You may want to wait if you going to make yourself look foolish.....

VP slot is not of any concern to voters. Richardson will not help because he is seen as a JUDAS. Obama will never win CA. Hispanics do not like Richardson in general. GAME IS OVER FOR THE DNC> THEY WILL EITHER NOMINATE HILLARY OR THEY WILL LOSE TO McCAIN.

I have serious doubts about McCain being able to carry California however they did elect a Republican as governor.

As to the individual who said being in prison does not make you a hero,( I would agree if its a prison for criminals) but 5 1/2 years in the Hanoi Hilton being beaten ever day, placed in solitary confinement, being starved, facing the threat of death each day, to this particular individual you need to get a reality check.
A man who can go through that has my full respect and admiration. He had maritial issues with his first wife, but do we disprespect every person we meet that has gotten a divorce.

I do take issue with persons who think Obama is the flippin Messiah, the man lies over and over meaning he is dishonest and has no honor, he cant beat Hillary out right so he and his buddies at the DNC force Hillary to lose two states Florida and Michigan. I dont see how the DNC can have a candidate in either states since they refuse to acknowledge their party votes in those states.
I think the legislature in both states should remove the Democratic party from their ballot see how the DNC likes that.

Obama leading McCain 52-38

Now this is a joke McCain took his party's nomination which is technically 50% of the popular vote.

Obama has not even swung 25% of the popular vote how the heck do you get 52-38 that is something I would expect from a moron.

Obama is the gift to the Republican party. He might be just as polarizing as Hillary. I'm not excited about John McCain but he's better than both Obama and Hillary. In this day and age of unexpected events we at least need experience. And I'm sorry but neither Hillary or Obama have real experience.

Majority of Latinos and Asians will not vote for the Democratic ticket if Barack Hussein Obama is on it. No one can help him win California unless Hillary Clinton is on the top of the ticket. Richardson won single digit votes, and after his betrayal of going against Clinton he is a JUDAS and majority of Latinos will not forget that. You don't bite the hand that feeds you.

I live in California and I will VOTE for the real American that will send all the ILLEGALS back home.

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hey LA Times, this is a no brainer for some Democrats here in CA..We've been howling this for some time now: McCain will win against Obama in CA. Democrats need the Latino, Asian, Catholic votes to win and Hillary has their support.. Keep in mind the present Governor is a GOP.

I have friends in CA who wouldn't vote for HRC after following the campaign but neither will they vote for McCain. I hope they mean it because I voted for her in NYC, but I never will again.
She is dishonest and will do and say anything to win.
see below you tube.

With all her carrying on about FLA and MI...she did sign on to punish states that jumped the stating line for the 2008 Primaries when she knew she was going to win the nomination. Once she lost 10 decisions in a row she now want those two states to count and for the DNC to forget the consequences that she and Harold Ickes signed onto.
However did Billary rear their daughter to follow the rules, and if she is OK so far what will happen to her ethical standards now? Watching mom and dad play politics has to have tainted her vision of them as fine upstanding citizens...she sure changed my vision of her as a moral ethical person. I thought Bill was the only liar in that family. Wrong!
I am no longer a Hillary supporter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmUVr_Qt2Wg

All the candidates running, Dem and Rep are crap. There is not one of them who I believe will truly serve the best interests of America. Elections have evolved into voting for the person who will do the least amount of damage to the country, until a real person, connected to the people, emerges. Unfortunately for America, we've waited a very long time for that person, and the little chips at the fabic of the nation have taken a great toll on the America we remember growing up in. I site the season finale of Boston Legal as an accurate portrayal of this nation's plight.

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I laugh how people think Obama is a great orator simply because they hear his speeches. Ever listen to the guy field questions he hasn't been informed of already? Heard him in the debates? He isn't as slick in these situations.

Obama and McCain are polling even in Massachusetts. Hispanics have a strong distrust of black folks, and California is filled with Hispanics. They know McCain is an amnesty guy as well. So he comes with less baggage than a bunch of lying Obama supporters try and claim.

Obama will lose in November and liberals will be putting up "sorry world" stupid videos again. Should have picked a moderate, you fools. When will you learn?

Tom and Jodi have it right. I was in the first group of 18 yr. olds that got to vote. We thought McGovern was a shoo-in, but Nixon destroyed him. John McCain has plenty of time to change his message and go back to his "maverick" ways, and the American public will only remember what they heard last. If you take the last 8 primaries, Obama won NC, but the state will likely go McCain, he won OR, but not by the margin that he should have. Two weeks before the IN primary he was up by about 8% and he lost. He got hammered in the others. People have serious doubts about Obama, and rightfully so. If the DNC thinks that people will vote for Obama just to vote against a Republican, then we will lose just like we lost in '72.

The DNC is headed by a lunatic in Howard Dean. Remember, he tried to get the nomination himself, but nobody cared about his message. Now he is twisting arms trying to get the rest of the DNC and the rest of the registered Dems to side with him. He has shown very poor judgment in the past, and is doing so again. People count the ELECTORAL votes state by state - see where Obama won and see where Clinton won. Then take out the states that will vote Republican anyway, and Obama is in trouble. Gore won the national popular vote, but what did that get him? to change a popular quote a bit "It's the electoral vote stupid"!

I was pro-Obama until I read this article, but after reading it, I am asking myself why I would vote for Obama if he can't carry California.

Another Democrat voting for McCain if Hillary doesn't make it.

Obama will destroy the country!

Diana - Your workplace number is meaningless. As I'm a contractor, I have several "workplaces" and Obama supporters seem to overwhelmingly dominate in the majority of them. What does that mean? It means that different companies have different workplace cultures. You also have to remember that many people like myself, in order to avoid getting into petty arguments with political cult adherents, just say whatever is neccessary to avoid creating ill will with people who can't separate politics from the workplace.

As for majority of Latinos and Asians, that's an unfounded assertion. As all my closest friends are some type of Asian, I can say that not only do the democrats among them have no problems with Obama, but most of them seem excited about him. At least they've freely volunteered that opinion. Indeed, there seems to be a dislike of hillary especially among my male Asian friends for what is perceived to be her willingness to lie, her repeated demonstration of weakness by playing the victim card, and her apparent unstableness in her willingness to sacrifice the entire party for her own personal ambition.

These things communicate unstable leadership and while she's busy appealing to everyone's intellect and emotions with contrived arguments about how the florida and MI primaries are as important as woman's suffrage, she has been sending signals of instability and fear through her overall pattern of behavior.

We'll see how it plays out though.

I love watching Americans tear themselves apart. Do any of you have any idea how much of a spectacle you make of yourselves in the eyes of the world? Only in the United States do you find schoolyard threats such as "If Johnny gets to play on the swings, I'm going to play on the monkey bars."

Your country is on a downward spiral and you as a nation and a people have plenty of opportunities to change that. Whether you feel that change will come in Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, John McCain or even that fellow Ron Paul, something needs to change about your country.

But I must say as an independent observer, out of all the fanatical supporters of these candidates, Hillary Clinton's supporters are quite childish. Blackmail and bribery? "If Obama gets the nomination I'm voting for McCain. But I love my country." Idiotic Americans with their borderline hilarious understanding of patriotism. In one breath they hate on poor old Bush and McCain but will willingly hand their nation over to them again. Why? Because they didn't get their way. What happened to supporting your party? Oh how your founding fathers must be turning over in their graves!

And last but not least... one of you Americans commented below about the DNC stealing two states from Hillary Clinton. This made me chuckle. It's well known that your Democratic Party had set forth in which your states had to follow. Nothing was stolen but Hillary's epic self-indulgence.

Enjoy your stay.

Oh, and God Bless America.

It won't help the Dems that we'll have a gay marriage iniitative on the November ballot. That will mobilize the right.

why do recent polls show that Obama would win CA over Hillary Clinton if the CA vote were done again?

bar62

Have you ever changed your mind when you find you have made a mistake or should do something in a different way? I know I have been doing something one way and said wait this is wrong let me do it this way.
Now the DNC is gonna have a special meeting on the 31st to find out what they are gonna do about the delegates from Michigan and Florida.
The governor of Michigan moved the election up, the governor of that state had the power to make that call, that was not the 1.5 million voters who made that call but the governor.
The Florida legislature voted to move the election up, again it is within their power to make that change and in neither state can the DNC override the power of the local government (agian the voters didnt do this but the goverment).
It is also within the power of the florida and michigan goverment to remove the Democratic ticket from their ballots, perhaps that is something that the DNC may want to take into consideration.

Either way if the DNC were to convince just 10% of the disgruntled democrats to vote either green, libertariar or some other way that is 43 electorial votes that can be lost.

Personally I would think that Barack would join Hillary in wanting those Florida and Michigan voters to have a say, but if he did that now he would lose his vote advantage. Besides he and some black friends in Michigan have already blocked a revote in Michigan.

Rich
Since you are from another country and I am an technically and Ambassador for my country the United States of American, I will say this in a more diplomatic fashion that perhaps if you were standing on Main Street USA.
"This is a family issue and as we Americans are the ones that are involved we can fight amoung ourselves all we want its a family matter, you can see your way out of it, you go deal with your family and leave our family alone."

My blogname is Politicus Finch. I am in Hollywood. I am in my 40s, a lifelong Democrat, attend Catholic mass -- a Reagan Democrat, to be sure, but a Democrat. I am Scots-Irish in background. I am pro-feminist even though I am not a woman. Please understand. The middle-age and older Democratic women are ANGRY. Even when Obama tries to reach out to them he is just more patronizing. The "sweetie" comment was not a small thing. I would have fired ANY junior level intern on any team I ever managed for calling a professional woman doing her work "sweetie." This is unbelievably basic. Catholics and Latinos don't trust him, because he has done nothing to genuinely reach out and speak their language and values. How could he? When one is running such a tightly-controlled campaign with only one talking point it is impossible to reach out to voters as people with their own concerns and needs. (Change You Can Believe In. Change You Can Believe In. Change You Can Believe In. Change You Can Believe In. The conformity of the automotons at his Nuremberg-style rallies is frightening.) We Scots-Irish will never vote for Obama. We come from the land of blarney and recognize it when we hear it. We distrust his appeal to emotion, his soaring words that say nothing, his silly campaign belief than everything that came before him was "bad" and he and he is the "new" and "fresh" and "different" one. What is he now, toothpaste? Mostly we are frightened by his glaring lack of genuine depth, experience, and accomplishment. We cannot name one single accomplishment where this man's politics actually changed a life. He digs the hole deeper with every patronizing attempt to reach out, cementing us further into our knowledge that we will not change our minds. Yes, many love him. But we don't. It would only take 5-10% of Democrats to sit this one out or to vote for McCain or to write in Hillary. Bye bye California, bye bye White House. I am so glad polls may finally be starting to show what some of us have known very deeply in our hearts and minds since the Ohio and Texas primaries.

If super delegates let themselves be intimidated and give the nomination to Obama when the primary results show he was not the true will of the people the Democrats can look forward to a moment at the convention when the candidate takes the podium, the balloons are released, the confetti comes down and half the Democratic party including all of Clinton's delegates, will get up and walk out. And they will not be back in the fall. The election at that moment will be over.It will also give the networks one hell of an interesting shot. On that no one is going to forget..

Interesting.... Another fear mongering strategy.... Do we truly think John McCain will take California ? No WAY... Not this time !!!

Jerry - Well said. I'm a Ron Paul republican who will be voting Obama in the fall(unless Ron runs as an independent)... I am angered at the direction our country has gone and at times, I'd like to smack some people who seem incredibly stupid upside their heads for the stupid "arguments" they put out there...

That being said, at the end of the day, those same people are my fellow Americans. Non-Americans can go to hell. We argue passionately because we love our nation and we all have strong opinions about what we think is best for it. That does not mean we hate each other. I'm sure a few of the dumber among us get that far, but most of us don't. Those who do get that far, should not vote as they are incapable of making a clear headed deciscion.

At the end of the day, this is politics and whether we agree politically or not, we're all in this country sharing this reality together and we can and will make the best of it. We do it longer, stronger, better, and faster. That's why we're number ONE.

Conservative Republicans for fifty years had tended to denigrate the importance of personal diplomacy," said Richard Norton Smith, the former director of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library, in a PBS film on the '85 summit. "It's the legacy of the Yalta Conference and they thought Franklin Roosevelt had sold us out and then we sold out China. We were all selling out someone. The sale was usually by a president who thought if only he could get in a room with his Soviet counterpart his charm and his arguments would prevail. That was the conservative position and yet Reagan clearly believed he could do that: the force of his personality of his arguments and above all of his sincerity would impress itself upon the Soviets."

Reagan went into that meeting with challenges more daunting than what U.S. faces in modern Iran. And the president's objective -- to back away from the brink of nuclear war while refusing to draw down America's commitment to the Strategic Defense Initiative (Star Wars) -- seemed, on the surface, to be an untenable proposition. But largely because of his personal touch, it was achieved.

"I think in terms of reaching out, Reagan went against the advice of what we would call today 'the neocons,'" said Lawrence Korb, Assistant Secretary of Defense in the Reagan administration. "He took the lead in negotiating with the Soviets. He broke the impasse that a lot of people in government didn't want him to do it."

But it wasn't just with Gorbachev in which Reagan showed an inclination for personal involvement in foreign affairs. As George Schultz, Reagan's Secretary of State, wrote in a concluding section of his memoir "Understanding Ronald Reagan": "Critics said Ronald Reagan read too many letters and not enough briefing books. I often wished he would spend more time on the briefing books, mastering details more fully and following up more aggressively on the management of foreign policy. But the letters buoyed him up and also gave him a continuing sense of contact with the people."

All of which, aides and biographers say, was part of a broader decision made by Reagan that engagement, even on a non-political level, was an essential political tactic.

"He had a very strong belief in personal diplomacy." said Paul Kengor, author of "The Crusader: Ronald Reagan and the Fall of Communism." Reagan placed "enormous confidence in his personal ability to get along with other leaders. Reagan knew that he generally throughout his life got along well with people and they generally liked him."

Sounds like the Obama foreign policy philosophy to me...

My huge Asian-American family (some Democrats, some Republicans) will ALL vote for McCain if he's against Obama. I've talked to some families like ours in California and some states and they are ALL going for McCain if Obama is the DNC nominee. We just can't stomach Obama (and it's not a racial argument).

So yes, McCain will win Cali.

What a nonsense. Obama will win California.
This is a waste of time.

People forget that California voted Republican in three straight elections in relatively recent history. Reagan, Reagan, GHW Bush. They forget that our governor is Republican voted in after we dumped a Dem governor mid-term. They forget the large and growing number of immigrants who like McCain on immigration issues.

I'm not making any predictions, but people take California for granted. It will not ALWAYS vote Democrat.

Politicus Finchus - Where to begin:
1) I'm a scott-irish Obama supporter. Perhaps I missed the meeting where you were elected to speak for all of us?
2) Would you fire all the professional women who've referred to me and others as "sweetie" over the years? I don't know how many times professional older women have called me that. It's a term of endearment and I've never felt I was being denigrated or spoken down to. I guess that's because I'm not a weak minded simpleton. I've actually had to survive real oppression in life in the form of childhood sexual abuse at the hands of my father. I guess when I see people claiming they've been harmed by a word, especially a word as innocuous and commonly used as "sweetie", I can't help but see whiney weak mindedness. In a world where so many truly bad things happen, people like you are right there to help the weak minded claim victimization over absolutely nothing.
3) Speaking of the conformity of automatons, I find the repetition of "sexist sexist sexist" by hillary supporters to not just show hive mind thinking at work, but also as a sign of what would be so disastrous about her presidency. I mean, what's going to happen when a leader of a sexist muslim state offends her? Is she going to attempt to whine them into submission? We need a leader whose selling point isn't "I deserve the nomination because life has been unfair to me". How you can't see the problem with this is beyond me.
4) A recent poll indicates that Obama is gaining support among Latinos, so I suspect your claim on this you got out of your rear end.
5) Soaring words that say nothing? When has Clinton said anything of substance? She votes for the war, she's against it, she's for staying there, etc... She doesn't make any sense, few of her followers know anything of substance about her health care plan, even though they tout how great it is and they don't know much about it, because she hasn't put too many details out there. I still don't know what she's going to do about Iraq, could you tell me and use quotes that aren't contradicted by her elsewhere to give me a solid clear cut answer? That'd be nice.
6) Political accomplishments that changed lives? Well, Hillary's political accomplishments that have changed lives include: voting to go to war in Iraq, the Patriot Act and it's multitude of follow up laws, and largely supporting Bush's economic agendas until it became politically expedient not to. Thanks Hillary, thanks for changing our lives.
7) As for you supposed democrats who won't vote for Obama and you point out 5-10 percent, well guess what buddy, there's at least that many that won't vote for hillary. I think Hillary probably could win California without us, but it's the other states around the nation she couldn't win. People see these polling numbers and don't understand that they reflect Obama being hit hard already, while Hillary has been pitched softballs. Once the republican pitchers came to the mounds and began harping on her dirty laundry, those poll numbers would change in a heart beat.

That you claim to be a lifelong democrat who would vote for the republican party, the party that has brought our nation to the brink of total economic collapse instead of someone who Hillary herself said wasn't much different from her when it came to policies, indicates to me that you're either a liar, a simpleton, or you don't trust Hillary's word that Obama isn't all that different from her. Take your pick.

Benjamin: About 95% of the employees at my workplace have known each other since grade school. Our parents knew each others parents in the forties, our siblings were school mates, so we're like family. We welcome debate, argue, fight and make up. We don't hold any grudges, because we're like an extended family, and it's pretty much the same throughout the county. I have seven siblings and the general consensus at their workplaces is pretty much the same as in my workplace. The majority in my workplace are Latinos, prior military, Catholics against abortion, with traditional family values that vote on the issues and not the candidate. The majority of us are for Hillary or McCain but definitely do not want Barack Obama as president or vice. But as you say, we'll see. Have a nice weekend, and may God bless us all no matter what happens.

Rich: I won't be as diplomatic as Jerry. Frankly, I don't give a damn what you and anyone in a foreign country think about our elections. With all our flaws in our elections, we are still a leading example and the envy of the world. When I travel to foreign countries I respect their customs and way of living, but as soon as anyone says something negative about my country or my president even if didn't vote for him, I stand up for my country and president, because it's like attacking my family. So Jerry stay out of this debate, and mind your country's business!

McCain should pick California Assemblwoman Bonnie Garcia, the Nation's highest ranking Latina Repubican as his running mate.

Cut right into the Democrats lock on the Hispanic vote in Cali and beyond.

She's an excellent legislator, and would make a fine addition to the McCain team.

McCain/Garcia '08!

To Jerry from Diana: I apologize, I meant to write for Rich to stay out of this debate, and mind his country's business. I agree with everything you wrote. Sorry again.

Diana - I still don't get the Hillary or McCain bit. Hillary has said herself that there isn't much difference between her and Obama. Then again, I know many who won't vote for Hillary, though most of them are talking 3rd party, not McCain. That so many would choose Hillary or McCain seems to bolster the argument that both are cut from the same cloth.

You have a good weekend too.

There is a huge groundswell of Democrats who are pledging not to vote for Obama in November. Part of this is due to the media bias and sexist treatment of Hillary; but an even larger part is due to Obama's shady connections (Rezko), self-help politics, and the scary fanaticism he arouses in his most ardent supporters. Race has nothing to do with it.

Hillary has won the popular vote and we want her to win the nomination so she can beat McCain in November. If the DNC kowtows to political correctness (because apparently race is on a higher PC scale than gender), and nominates a man who is not fit to be president, we will protest with our votes. We think it is that serious.

Do not blame Hillary for splitting the party: Obama and his supporters split it with their patronizing disregard of blue collar workers, and their chilling calls for unity (basically a way to say: Shut up, people who disagree with us). Hillary supporters would rather have a moderate Republican in office than a dishonest Democrat who appeals to the most extreme part of the Democratic party. (I'm talking about white liberals here, not African Americans, who are simply voting to support their race.)

IF Obama is the nominee I will vote McCain. Obama's use of the race card to win the nomination is one of the uglies things ever done in a democratic primary and an assault on my party. The Super Delegates need to send Obama home and tell him to take his consultant Donna Brazile with him.

Here's the polling record for CA in an Obama v. McCain matchup:

http://www.pollster.com/08-CA-Pres-GE-MvO.php

Clearly, Obama has a substantial lead. I hope McCain pours resources into California. Bush did so in 2000, and it almost cost him the election.

I also find it odd that there are Hillary supporters who say they won't support Obama because of what Obama supporters said and perceived media bias. So people said mean stuff on the internet and the media said mean stuff, and so you'll say "well, my political beliefs don't mean as much as my annoyance" and vote McCain? Also, how voting McCain punishes the media---who love John McCain---is pretty incomprehensible.

You're entitled to your decision, of course, but I'm voting for the Democratic nominee no matter what, even though Team Clinton repeatedly insulted Obama supporters personally, with the "young voters are naive" stuff from Bill and the implication that everyone supporting Obama is an "elitist."

I say it a long time ago, no way obama will in Cal. I suspect he will also lose, NY, MASS,NJ,NEV,NM,CO because of the Latino vote. As a latino, i see that obama is not ready to be POTUS. Theres nothing to prove he will be good. I also don't trust him. if you see who he hangs with, you would have concern.

Hillary has won the popular vote

in a strange universe where gaping holes are found where many states actually exist, and where Michigan counts such that absolutely everyone voted for Clinton and no one else.

You lost. Fair and square. Your campaign agreed to the rules, and you lost.

Speaking of dishonest Democrats, can there be anything more dishonest than bringing up the RFK assassination as a justification for staying in?

Regardless of the treatment of Hillary, I am not voting for Obama because I've done my homework and he's a corrupt man with charisma, and in a politically charged environment like this, I think that's dangerous. I am not voting for McCain either, unless he chooses a VP that I really like. I'm voting 3rd party and have yet to decide which candidate. I do not have "loyalty" to a Democratic party that spits in the face of its female supporters.

I'm a Clinton supporter. If Obama is the nominee, I am one of the many Democrats who will not vote for him, regardless of what your poll indicates.

Evie, I just happened to be on the site tonight to read your rebuttal of my comments. First of all, your tone is all too typical of many commenters on both sides, amateurish and predictable. If you want me to seriously engage in a war of ideas and facts with you, I suggest the first thing you might try to do is get my name right. Thanks, sweetie.

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Don, Don, Don:

The post about Obama and McCain and their respective positions re the military benefits legislation confused me. I am not skilled enough re blogging to post it in the right place so if you can move my questions/comments there I would be most appreciative.

I get the feeling in reading that post that you do no like McCain at all. You seem to be saying that in his response to Sen. Obama, McCain played the "I wore the uniform, you didn't card." In the quote from McCain, I do not see where he said anything about having worn the uniform. But I do see where Obama did play the uniform/no uniform card.

What up homey? Has the return to the Beltway pushed you away from fair and responsible journalism? To me, McCain is saying that Obama needs to study the legislation and responsibly debate the issue.

Am I wrong?

Best regards, your Santa Fe friend.

Jake

The LA Times' bias in favor of Obama has been very clear over the past months, so if I were you, I'd look at an average of all polls, not just at one pollster's results. For example, Zogby, who is a rabid Obama supporter told us that Obama was going to take California by 13 percentage points. Guess what, Clinton won California by 10. Most polls still show Hillary running ahead of Obama in California when going against McCain. Also, current electoral vote counts show Hillary running way ahead of McCain while Obama is either even, a little behind or a little ahead of McCain--which means that Obama can easily lose the general election while Hillary will win handily against McCain.

I think John McCain has a real chance in California. Even in the LA Times' biased poll, Obama is only 7 points ahead . That means they are close enough for McCain to win. Among my friends--we're all Hillary Clinton supporters here in California--we can never vote for Obama. MOst of us will vote for McCain in the GE. Why do you think, despite the terrible condition of our country, Obama, the supposed "change" agent, still runs behind McCain in popular vote polls conducted by unbiased sources and cannot pull ahead significant in electoral vote polls? Too many Dems are pissed off at Obama's strong arm passive aggressive tactics (using his surrogates to do his dirty work while he puts up a "who me?" false front), the mainstream media's Clinton bashing (except for FOX News) and the complicit silence of the Dem leadership.

I AM A CALIFORNIAN LATINA AND I VOTE FOR OBAMA IT HAS NOTHING TO DO IF YOU ARE A CALIFORNIAN IT IS WHAT IS BEST FOR THE UNITED STATES