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Newly-found videos show Clinton narrowly escaped death in Bosnia

It's our policy here at The Ticket to admit when we make a mistake. And, boy, did we make a doozie the other day when we reported that CBS News videos contradicted Sen. Hillary Clinton's hair-raising account of her bullet-riddled arrival in Bosnia in 1996.

In numerous speeches during this campaign season she has described her party making a harrowing landing on the embattled airfield. Passengers, she recalled, were forced to run with their heads down for the safety of nearby vehicles, which apparently had to be kept a safe distance away in order for people to have to heroically run to them. "That is what happened," candidate Clinton said emphatically.

The news video, which we included in our Ticket item and you should probably review again here, to see how seemingly real film can be doctored so seamlessly, appeared to show the First Lady and her daughter Chelsea calmly walking across the tarmac at Tuzla Air Base, greeting a little girl reading a poem and bravely visiting with American troops near the front lines of that ethnic strife.

WARNING: Some of this war footage is graphic and may be disturbing to some readers.

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Some cynics suggested Clinton was exaggerating the danger and importance of her travels in order to bulk up her credentials of experience to be able to answer the White House phone at 3 a.m. And last night Jay Leno joked that Clinton was supposed to be his guest, but she got pinned down by sniper fire and couldn't make it.

But now we know that peaceful video, which also showed Sinbad trying to be funny in the face of imminent death and Sheryl Crow fearlessly strumming a guitar, had to have been doctored to mask the gunfire and excise the bloody carnage surrounding the brave Mrs. Clinton.

The Ticket has now obtained two videos of the actual visit -- one just above here and another awaiting after you click the Read more line down below.

These film clips obviously show the real wartime conditions that the future Democratic presidential candidate endured on her road toward the nomination. And you have to hand it to the one-time Cubs-now-forever Yankees fan. Not once, does she flinch amid the explosions.

View second video below by clicking on the Read more line.

Now, here's another taped version of the same 1996 visit to Bosnia with the actual sound of gunfire. How the Secret Service allowed a First Lady to go into such a dangerous place, we'll never know. But we're certain Rep. Henry Waxman will conduct a full televised investigation as soon as he can find a Republican involved.

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this is pathetic and a waste of time - did some kid hijack this blog?

go away


see what truthful, factual, and accurate reporting can do? so hillary was really under snipers' fire in bosnia then, as she correctly recalled. good enough that the press, led by la times, was decent enough to admit its error and rectify its earlier knee-jerk bashing of hillary.

i often wonder why there's so much seeming hatred of the us press against hillary. is it because this highly-patriarchal society can't take a woman of such strong character that hdc exemplifies? with such a closed mindset, such a bias against a strong-willed lady american leader like hillary, margaret thatcher would have been stoned to death, had she been american, and running for president in the 1980s.

come on, fellows, give hillary a break, grow up, will ya?

BUT MUCH MORE IMPORTANTLY, following is the text of Barack Obama's speech at Cooper Union in New York, as prepared for delivery and provided by his campaign

I want to thank Mayor Bloomberg for his extraordinary leadership. At a time when Washington is divided in old ideological battles, he shows us what can be achieved when we bring people together to seek pragmatic solutions. Not only has he been a remarkable leader for New York –he has established himself as a major voice in our national debate on issues like renewing our economy, educating our children, and seeking energy independence. Mr. Mayor, I share your determination to bring this country together to finally make progress for the American people.
In a city of landmarks, we meet at Cooper Union, just uptown from Federal Hall, where George Washington took the oath of office as the first President of the United States. With all the history that has passed through the narrow canyons of lower Manhattan, it is worth taking a moment to reflect on the role that the market has played in the development of the American story.
The great task before our Founders that day was putting into practice the ideal that government could simultaneously serve liberty and advance the common good. For Alexander Hamilton, the young Secretary of the Treasury, that task was bound to the vigor of the American economy.
Hamilton had a strong belief in the power of the market. But he balanced that belief with the conviction that human enterprise “may be beneficially stimulated by prudent aids and encouragements on the part of the government.” Government, he believed, had an important role to play in advancing our common prosperity. So he nationalized the state Revolutionary War debts, weaving together the economies of the states and creating an American system of credit and capital markets. And he encouraged manufacturing and infrastructure, so products could be moved to market.
Hamilton met fierce opposition from Thomas Jefferson, who worried that this brand of capitalism would favor the interests of the few over the many. Jefferson preferred an agrarian economy because he believed that it would give individual landowners freedom, and that this freedom would nurture our democratic institutions. But despite their differences, there was one thing that Jefferson and Hamilton agreed on – that economic growth depended upon the talent and ingenuity of the American people; that in order to harness that talent, opportunity had to remain open to all; and that through education in particular, every American could climb the ladder of social and economic mobility, and achieve the American Dream.
In the more than two centuries since then, we have struggled to balance the same forces that confronted Hamilton and Jefferson – self-interest and community; markets and democracy; the concentration of wealth and power, and the necessity of transparency and opportunity for each and every citizen. Throughout this saga, Americans have pursued their dreams within a free market that has been the engine of America’s progress. It’s a market that has created a prosperity that is the envy of the world, and opportunity for generations of Americans. A market that has provided great rewards to the innovators and risk-takers who have made America a beacon for science, and technology, and discovery.
But the American experiment has worked in large part because we have guided the market’s invisible hand with a higher principle. Our free market was never meant to be a free license to take whatever you can get, however you can get it. That is why we have put in place rules of the road to make competition fair, and open, and honest. We have done this not to stifle – but rather to advance prosperity and liberty. As I said at NASDAQ last September: the core of our economic success is the fundamental truth that each American does better when all Americans do better; that the well being of American business, its capital markets, and the American people are aligned.
I think all of us here today would acknowledge that we’ve lost that sense of shared prosperity.
This loss has not happened by accident. It’s because of decisions made in boardrooms, on trading floors and in Washington. Under Republican and Democratic Administrations, we failed to guard against practices that all too often rewarded financial manipulation instead of productivity and sound business practices. We let the special interests put their thumbs on the economic scales. The result has been a distorted market that creates bubbles instead of steady, sustainable growth; a market that favors Wall Street over Main Street, but ends up hurting both.
Nor is this trend new. The concentrations of economic power – and the failures of our political system to protect the American economy from its worst excesses – have been a staple of our past, most famously in the 1920s, when with success we ended up plunging the country into the Great Depression. That is when government stepped in to create a series of regulatory structures – from the FDIC to the Glass-Steagall Act – to serve as a corrective to protect the American people and American business.
Ironically, it was in reaction to the high taxes and some of the outmoded structures of the New Deal that both individuals and institutions began pushing for changes to this regulatory structure. But instead of sensible reform that rewarded success and freed the creative forces of the market, too often we’ve excused and even embraced an ethic of greed, corner cutting and inside dealing that has always threatened the long-term stability of our economic system. Too often, we’ve lost that common stake in each other’s prosperity.
Let me be clear: the American economy does not stand still, and neither should the rules that govern it. The evolution of industries often warrants regulatory reform – to foster competition, lower prices, or replace outdated oversight structures. Old institutions cannot adequately oversee new practices. Old rules may not fit the roads where our economy is leading. There were good arguments for changing the rules of the road in the 1990s. Our economy was undergoing a fundamental shift, carried along by the swift currents of technological change and globalization. For the sake of our common prosperity, we needed to adapt to keep markets competitive and fair.
Unfortunately, instead of establishing a 21st century regulatory framework, we simply dismantled the old one – aided by a legal but corrupt bargain in which campaign money all too often shaped policy and watered down oversight. In doing so, we encouraged a winner take all, anything goes environment that helped foster devastating dislocations in our economy.
Deregulation of the telecommunications sector, for example, fostered competition but also contributed to massive over-investment. Partial deregulation of the electricity sector enabled market manipulation. Companies like Enron and WorldCom took advantage of the new regulatory environment to push the envelope, pump up earnings, disguise losses and otherwise engage in accounting fraud to make their profits look better – a practice that led investors to question the balance sheet of all companies, and severely damaged public trust in capital markets. This was not the invisible hand at work. Instead, it was the hand of industry lobbyists tilting the playing field in Washington, an accounting industry that had developed powerful conflicts of interest, and a financial sector that fueled over-investment.
A decade later, we have deregulated the financial services sector, and we face another crisis. A regulatory structure set up for banks in the 1930s needed to change because the nature of business has changed. But by the time the Glass-Steagall Act was repealed in 1999, the $300 million lobbying effort that drove deregulation was more about facilitating mergers than creating an efficient regulatory framework.
Since then, we have overseen 21st century innovation – including the aggressive introduction of new and complex financial instruments like hedge funds and non-bank financial companies – with outdated 20th century regulatory tools. New conflicts of interest recalled the worst excesses of the past – like the outrageous news that we learned just yesterday of KPMG allowing a lender to report profits instead of losses, so that both parties could make a quick buck. Not surprisingly, the regulatory environment failed to keep pace. When subprime mortgage lending took a reckless and unsustainable turn, a patchwork of regulators were unable or unwilling to protect the American people.
The policies of the Bush Administration threw the economy further out of balance. Tax cuts without end for the wealthiest Americans. A trillion dollar war in Iraq that didn’t need to be fought, paid for with deficit spending and borrowing from foreign creditors like China. A complete disdain for pay-as-you-go budgeting – coupled with a generally scornful attitude towards oversight and enforcement – allowed far too many to put short-term gain ahead of long term consequences. The American economy was bound to suffer a painful correction, and policymakers found themselves with fewer resources to deal with the consequences.
Today, those consequences are clear. I see them in every corner of our great country, as families face foreclosure and rising costs. I seem them in towns across America, where a credit crisis threatens the ability of students to get loans, and states can’t finance infrastructure projects. I see them here in Manhattan, where one of our biggest investment banks had to be bailed out, and the Fed opened its discount window to a host of new institutions with unprecedented implications we have yet to appreciate. When all is said and done, losses will be in the many hundreds of billions. What was bad for Main Street was bad for Wall Street. Pain trickled up.
That is why the principle that I spoke about at NASDAQ is even more urgently true today: in our 21st century economy, there is no dividing line between Main Street and Wall Street. The decisions made in New York’s high-rises have consequences for Americans across the country. And whether those Americans can make their house payments; whether they keep their jobs; or spend confidently without falling into debt – that has consequences for the entire market. The future cannot be shaped by the best-connected lobbyists with the best record of raising money for campaigns. This thinking is wrong for the financial sector and it’s wrong for our country.
I do not believe that government should stand in the way of innovation, or turn back the clock to an older era of regulation. But I do believe that government has a role to play in advancing our common prosperity: by providing stable macroeconomic and financial conditions for sustained growth; by demanding transparency; and by ensuring fair competition in the marketplace.
Our history should give us confidence that we don’t have to choose between an oppressive government-run economy and a chaotic and unforgiving capitalism. It tells us we can emerge from great economic upheavals stronger, not weaker. But we can do so only if we restore confidence in our markets. Only if we rebuild trust between investors and lenders. And only if we renew that common interest between Wall Street and Main Street that is the key to our success. Now, as most experts agree, our economy is in a recession. To renew our economy – and to ensure that we are not doomed to repeat a cycle of bubble and bust again and again – we need to address not only the immediate crisis in the housing market; we also need to create a 21st century regulatory framework, and pursue a bold opportunity agenda for the American people.
Most urgently, we must confront the housing crisis.
After months of inaction, the President spoke here in New York and warned against doing too much. His main proposal – extending tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans – is completely divorced from the reality that people are facing around the country. John McCain recently announced his own plan, and it amounts to little more than watching this crisis happen. While this is consistent with Senator McCain’s determination to run for George Bush’s third term, it won’t help families who are suffering, and it won’t help lift our economy out of recession.
Over two million households are at risk of foreclosure and millions more have seen their home values plunge. Many Americans are walking away from their homes, which hurts property values for entire neighborhoods and aggravates the credit crisis. To stabilize the housing market and help bring the foreclosure crisis to an end, I have sponsored Senator Chris Dodd’s legislation creating a new FHA Housing Security Program, which will provide meaningful incentives for lenders to buy or refinance existing mortgages. This will allow Americans facing foreclosure to keep their homes at rates they can afford.
Senator McCain argues that government should do nothing to protect borrowers and lenders who’ve made bad decisions, or taken on excessive risk. On this point, I agree. But the Dodd-Frank package is not a bailout for lenders or investors who gambled recklessly, as they will take losses. It is not a windfall for borrowers, as they will have to share any capital gain. Instead, it offers a responsible and fair way to help bring an end to the foreclosure crisis. It asks both sides to sacrifice, while preventing a long-term collapse that could have enormous ramifications for the most responsible lenders and borrowers, as well as the American people as a whole. That is what Senator McCain ignores.
For homeowners who were victims of fraud, I’ve also proposed a $10 billion Foreclosure Prevention Fund that would help them sell a home that is beyond their means, or modify their loan to avoid foreclosure or bankruptcy. It’s also time to amend our bankruptcy laws, so families aren’t forced to stick to the terms of a home loan that was predatory or unfair.
To prevent fraud in the future, I’ve proposed tough new penalties on fraudulent lenders, and a Home Score system that will allow consumers to find out more about mortgage offers and whether they’ll be able to make payments. To help low- and middle-income families, I’ve proposed a 10 percent mortgage interest tax credit that will allow homeowners who don’t itemize their taxes to access incentives for home ownership. And to expand home ownership, we must do more to help communities turn abandoned properties into affordable housing.
The government can’t do this alone, nor should it. As I said last September, lenders must get ahead of the curve rather than just reacting to crisis. They should actively look at all borrowers, offer workouts, and reduce the principal on mortgages in trouble. Not only can this prevent the larger losses associated with foreclosure and resale, but it can reduce the extent of government intervention and taxpayer exposure.
Beyond dealing with the immediate housing crisis, it is time for the federal government to revamp the regulatory framework dealing with our financial markets.
Our capital markets have helped us build the strongest economy in the world. They are a source of competitive advantage for our country. But they cannot succeed without the public’s trust. The details of regulatory reform should be developed through sound analysis and public debate. But there are several core principles for reform that I will pursue as President.
First, if you can borrow from the government, you should be subject to government oversight and supervision. Secretary Paulson admitted this in his remarks yesterday. The Federal Reserve should have basic supervisory authority over any institution to which it may make credit available as a lender of last resort. When the Fed steps in, it is providing lenders an insurance policy underwritten by the American taxpayer. In return, taxpayers have every right to expect that these institutions are not taking excessive risks. The nature of regulation should depend on the degree and extent of the Fed’s exposure. But at the very least, these new regulations should include liquidity and capital requirements.
Second, there needs to be general reform of the requirements to which all regulated financial institutions are subjected. Capital requirements should be strengthened, particularly for complex financial instruments like some of the mortgage securities that led to our current crisis. We must develop and rigorously manage liquidity risk. We must investigate rating agencies and potential conflicts of interest with the people they are rating. And transparency requirements must demand full disclosure by financial institutions to shareholders and counterparties.
As we reform our regulatory system at home, we must work with international arrangements like the Basel Committee on Banking Supervision, the International Accounting Standards Board, and the Financial Stability Forum to address the same problems abroad. The goal must be ensuring that financial institutions around the world are subject to similar rules of the road – both to make the system stable, and to keep our financial institutions competitive.
Third, we need to streamline a framework of overlapping and competing regulatory agencies. Reshuffling bureaucracies should not be an end in itself. But the large, complex institutions that dominate the financial landscape do not fit into categories created decades ago. Different institutions compete in multiple markets – our regulatory system should not pretend otherwise. A streamlined system will provide better oversight, and be less costly for regulated institutions.
Fourth, we need to regulate institutions for what they do, not what they are. Over the last few years, commercial banks and thrift institutions were subject to guidelines on subprime mortgages that did not apply to mortgage brokers and companies. It makes no sense for the Fed to tighten mortgage guidelines for banks when two-thirds of subprime mortgages don’t originate from banks. This regulatory framework has failed to protect homeowners, and it is now clear that it made no sense for our financial system. When it comes to protecting the American people, it should make no difference what kind of institution they are dealing with.
Fifth, we must remain vigilant and crack down on trading activity that crosses the line to market manipulation. Reports have circulated in recent days that some traders may have intentionally spread rumors that Bear Stearns was in financial distress while making market bets against the company. The SEC should investigate and punish this kind of market manipulation, and report its conclusions to Congress.
Sixth, we need a process that identifies systemic risks to the financial system. Too often, we deal with threats to the financial system that weren’t anticipated by regulators. That’s why we should create a financial market oversight commission, which would meet regularly and provide advice to the President, Congress, and regulators on the state of our financial markets and the risks that face them. These expert views could help anticipate risks before they erupt into a crisis.
These six principles should guide the legal reforms needed to establish a 21st century regulatory system. But the change we need goes beyond laws and regulation – we need a shift in the cultures of our financial institutions and our regulatory agencies.
Financial institutions must do a better job at managing risks. There is something wrong when boards of directors or senior managers don’t understand the implications of the risks assumed by their own institutions. It’s time to realign incentives and compensation packages, so that both high level executives and employees better serve the interests of shareholders. And it’s time to confront the risks that come with excessive complexity. Even the best government regulation cannot fully substitute for internal risk management.
For supervisory agencies, oversight must keep pace with innovation. As the subprime crisis unfolded, tough questions about new and complex financial instruments were not asked. As a result, the public interest was not protected. We do American business – and the American people – no favors when we turn a blind eye to excessive leverage and dangerous risks.
Finally, the American people must be able to trust that their government is looking out for all of us – not just those who donate to political campaigns. I fought in the Senate for the most extensive ethics reform since Watergate. I have refused contributions from federal lobbyists and PACs. And I have laid out far-reaching plans that I intend to sign into law as President to bring transparency to government, and to end the revolving door between industries and the federal agencies that oversee them.
Once we deal with the immediate crisis in housing and strengthen the regulatory system governing our financial markets, our final task is to restore a sense of opportunity for all Americans.
The bedrock of our economic success is the American Dream. It's a dream shared in big cities and small towns; across races, regions and religions – that if you work hard, you can support a family; that if you get sick, there will be health care you can afford; that you can retire with the dignity and security and respect that you have earned; that your kids can get a good education, and young people can go to college even if they're not rich. That is our common hope across this country. That is the American Dream.
But today, for far too many Americans, this dream is slipping away. Wall Street has been gripped by increasing gloom over the last nine months. But for many American families, the economy has effectively been in recession for the past seven years. We have just come through the first sustained period of economic growth since World War II that was not accompanied by a growth in incomes for typical families. Americans are working harder for less. Costs are rising, and it’s not clear that we’ll leave a legacy of opportunity to our children and grandchildren.
That’s why, throughout this campaign, I’ve put forward a series of proposals that will foster economic growth from the bottom up, and not just from the top down. That’s why the last time I spoke on the economy here in New York, I talked about the need to put the policies of George W. Bush behind us – policies that have essentially said to the American people: “you are on your own”; because we need to pursue policies that once again recognize that we are in this together.
This starts with providing a stimulus that will reach the most vulnerable Americans, including immediate relief to areas hardest hit by the housing crisis, and a significant extension of unemployment insurance for those who are out of work. If we can extend a hand to banks on Wall Street, we can extend a hand to Americans who are struggling.
Beyond these short term measures, as President I will be committed to putting the American Dream on a firmer footing. To reward work and make retirement secure, we’ll provide an income tax cut of up to $1000 for a working family, and eliminate income taxes altogether for any retiree making less than $50,000 per year. To make health care affordable for all Americans, we’ll cut costs and provide coverage to all who need it. To put more Americans to work, we’ll create millions of new Green Jobs and invest in rebuilding our nation’s infrastructure. To extend opportunity, we’ll invest in our schools and our teachers, and make college affordable for every American. And to ensure that America stays on the cutting edge, we’ll expand broadband access, expand funding for basic scientific research, and pass comprehensive immigration reform so that we continue to attract the best and the brightest to our shores.
I know that making these changes won’t be easy. I will not pretend that this will come without cost, though I have presented ways we can achieve these changes in a fiscally responsible way. I know that we’ll have to overcome our doubts and divisions and the determined opposition of powerful special interests before we can truly advance opportunity and prosperity for all Americans.
But I would not be running for President if I didn’t think that this was a defining moment in our history. If we fail to overcome our divisions and continue to let special interest set the agenda, then America will fall behind. Short-term gains will continue to yield long-term costs. Opportunity will slip away on Main Street and prosperity will suffer here on Wall Street. But if we unite this country around a common purpose, if we act on the responsibilities that we have to each other and to our country, then we can launch a new era of opportunity and prosperity.
I know we can do this because Americans have done this before. Time and again, we’ve recognized that common stake that we have in each other’s success. That’s how people as different as Hamilton and Jefferson came together to launch the world’s greatest experiment in democracy. That’s why our economy hasn’t just been the world’s greatest wealth creator – it’s bound America together, it’s created jobs, and it’s made the dream of opportunity a reality for generations of Americans.
Now it falls to us. We have as our inheritance the greatest economy the world has ever known. We have the responsibility to continue the work that began on that spring day over two centuries ago right here in Manhattan – to renew our common purpose for a new century, and to write the next chapter in the story of America’s success. We can do this. And we can begin this work today.

To the moderators, you are human too! Who says journalists don't have sense of humors! A little bit of laughter is good for the soul. Great job of posting.

Now, if Hillary faced near death because she was a few inches from sniper bullets, I would honestly say that it was a horrific experience and down right unacceptable for any American diplomatic contingent to face.

However, had the sniper bullets struck the calm and honest Mrs. Clinton, then many Americans (millions I would suspect) would consider the Bosnian rebels heroes. Go figure?

sIMPLY HILLARYOUS!

All these slings against Hillary. It's amazing that she's getting abused by her own party members in her quest for the Democratic ticket. If the Democrats are taking her down with hurtful and degrading facts and opinions...just imagine what the Republicans are going to do to her should she win the nomination in June?

I guess what comes around goes around, right Billary? You too Chelsea!

What next, a video of her breast-feeding the poor children in the villages of Africa?

Clintonspeak for 20 years and counting:

"I did not have sex with that woman"
"I took sniper fire in Bosnia"

Bookends.

Ha Ha.....really funny. Problem is that the headline is problematic. Maybe you thought it was time for comic relief....if so you should be clearer.

You are making light of a major character flaw in a candidate for Presdident., one that has been repeated throughout her career. Is it your intent to diminish this incident.

Really stupid reporting.

I do not see the humor in this article. I might remind you this is an awful slur on one of the candidates running for President of the United States. It is a serious endeavor and before the MSM continues to follow a spin created by the opposing campaign who actually provided the video of one landing in the ten days of this trip, I call your attention to another report, in fact two more by an obviously less biased news service with reporters who do not pontificate-they just report.
I think you owe Mrs. Clinton an apology and you should 'renounce' your title of reporter.
Maybe she was thinking about this day at Camp Bedrock when she misspoke about something that happened 10 years ago:


But the highlight of her trip were visits to two fortified posts outside the U.S. base in Tuzla. Even President Clinton, restricted to the base by bad weather in January, did not see as much of this war-wracked region as Mrs. Clinton did Monday.
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Riflemen rushed to the brush line as the helicopter landed and surrounded her as she walked into the post. Located in a "separation zone," the U.S. outpost nestles between two tree lines. Just months ago, one was Serbian territory, the other Bosnian.

Security was tight - fighter jets accompanied her C-17 cargo plane to Tuzla - but officials said the first lady took no extraordinary risks on the trip.
Lexis - By RON FOURNIER, Associated Press, March 25, 1996

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First Lady of the United States, Hillary Clinton, visited her country's troops at their fortified outposts in north-eastern Bosnia today and said their peacekeeping work was "extraordinary to behold".
Mrs Clinton's helicopter flight to Camp Alicia, home of a mechanised infantry outfit and a combat engineer batallion 15 miles east of Tuzla, took her over burned out villages and farm houses whose roofs had been blown off in the fierce fighting before last December's Paris peace agreement ended the 43 -month-old war in Bosnia.

A machine gun emplacement guarded the entrance of the outposts and marked Bosnian minefields were visible outside its perimeter.
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After lunch with the troops in a makeshift dining hall surrounded by sandbags, she flew on to Camp Bedrock south of Tuzla to visit an army field hospital.

Mrs Clinton, who later returned to Tuzla for a show starring singer Sheryl Crow and comedian Sinbad, said she was "amazed at how much has been accomplished in such a short period of time" by US troops in Bosnia.
Source - Lexis - The Herald (Glasgow), March 26, 1996

The Earth is flat. HILLARY 08!

Hillarious! You gotta love You Tube's contribution to the political discourse. In the instances of the outing of former Senator George Allen as a bigot, broadcasting Pastor Wrights anti-American vitriol, and Hillary Clinton's blatant lying, You Tube has been a beneficial democratic tool that has allowed citizens to hold politicians accountable for their words.

Too funny! Thanks for the video links. Good to see some humor injected in to this silly time in politics.
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Do you know what ever happened to this item?: http://www.usjf.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=344

Is Hillary going to be indited for this before the election?

This is journalism, and from the newspaper of record of one of the major cities in the United States? No wonder the industry is in bad shape.


(Hint: This isn't a newspaper. It's an online blog. Big, big difference.)

Here is a scary thought. If sleep deprivation caused Hillary to believe those things happened, could she suffer a relapse of her delusions while acting as Commander -In_Chief of the Armed Forces? That was not a misstatement. Hillary Clinton professed those events to have actually occurred. This is hallucinating. This video could well portray exactly how Hillary remembers the events.

As a Hillary supporter, even I found the videos on YouTube to be quite funny. Everyone has to have a sense of humor about this. As MMiller's post mentioned earlier, she should have stuck to the purpose of the trip and what she did there rather than conjure this story about taking sniper fire. She had it coming to her, much like Obama had the criticism of Rev. Jeremiah Wright's comments about 9/11 coming to him.

And the ironic part about both those situations is that they should have been reported by the media earlier than they were. Hillary told this account about the Bosnia trip on at least two other occasions in January and February.

To MMiller - Hillary does not agree with you're view on her comments. She said she was mistaken due to lack of sleep.

Thank goodness Hillary won't be answering that 3am call - she might start bombing Kansas by "mistake" due to lack of sleep. Most likely she would just mute that phone anyway.

Blogger named Anabel Adams? You think the Democratic party is exemplifying the definition of competitive diplomacy? No wonder they are in bad shape...Get a grip lady, and go out and buy yourself an ice-cream cone. You've been frowning too long! With a name like Anabel Adams, I could understand why, but it is still no excuse to dismiss Mr. Frederick and Mr. Malcolm's desire to make us laugh once in a while. It's good for the soul you know.

Patricia Potenciano,

In paraphrasing, your opinion is that the L.A. Times and the media in general, don't like the idea of a strong willed woman in office because of their comfort level growing up in a traditional "patriarchal" society?

Okay, this is wrong how? It may not be your take on how things should be run, but I'll be damn if they don't have the "right" to think this way, whether they really do so or not.

This is politics, this is competetion, this is war, win at all costs. If you want double standards for a woman and specialize treatment for your candidate BECAUSE she's a woman, admit it. Don't use this, "because she's a woman" crap. That is old.

Iraqi soldiers, both men and women, die because of bullets and bombs aimed solely for them. Those WOMEN don't expect special treatment in the front lines of combat because they, as females, knew the risks and CHOSE to honor this country by putting on a uniform. Those are REAL WOMEN. I suggest you take notes.

Bullets have no preference, neither do political strategies when vying for President. You take EVERYTHING and ANYTHING for your victory. WAKE UP!

In staying with your theme, then I suppose Bill Clinton dishonored his marriage vows by having adulterous affairs with Gennifer Flowers and Monica Lewinsky simply because of him being raised in a traditionaly southern patriarchal society, right? Stupid men ! Will they ever learn?

Ms. PONTENCIO, I suggest you to go to the beauty parlor, and try to attract a man with the "potency" that satifies you. Good luck and I hope you believe in miracles.

As David Geffen old New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd, "Everybody in politics lies, but (the Clintons) do it with such ease, it's troubling."

To Obama supporters,
If your candidate steals this election, we will vote for McCain. First,he cannot carry one swing state. And MORE IMPORTANT, MANY voters want their votes back, Florida and Michigan are not counted at all, Nevada and Texas were won by Clinton and Obama gets more delegates, many states held only caucuses not allowing many to have a chance to vote due to time constraints and/or confrontations, and MANY states have yet to vote, as well as Puerto Rico. Yes, if Obama steal this election, we vote for McCain. Yes, we will.

To Clinton supporters,
If your candidate steals this election, we will vote for McCain. First, she cannot carry one swing state. And MORE IMPORTANT, MANY voters want their votes back, Florida and Michigan are not counted at all, thanks to Clinton! Nevada and Texas were won by Obama and Clinton gets more credit, many states held only elections not allowing many to have a chance to vote due to time constraints and/or confrontations, and MOST states have already voted. Yes, if Clinton steal this election, we vote for McCain. Yes, we will.

Okay, to the one who calls itself 08Vote.

I applaud your passion for politics. However, part of the beauty of blogging is reading other people's comments. Some comments, I agree with, some I don't. Likewise, some enlighten me, some make me laugh, some make me think, some make me angry.

However, Mr. or Ms. 08Vote...if I wanted to read a book, I would have done so. Thank you. After your second paragraph, your "blog/book" bored me to tears, despite how passionate you are with the topic.

I know there isn't a limit of how long one's comment should be, but yours is an example of "too-long".

I suggest writing articles and create a site where YOUR comments actually mean something to somebody. Hello !

To the second blogger named Patricia Pontencanio...great comment. Let me change it a little bit, then lets see if you approve;

I often wonder why there's so much seeming hatred by the traditional white-Americans against Obama. Is it because this highly-WASP society can't take an African-American man of such strong character that Obama exemplifies? With such a closed mindset, such a bias against a strong-willed American leader like Obama, Nelson Mandela would have been stoned to death (or worse), had he been American and even "thinking" of running for president from 1860 to 1960.

Come on Americans of European descent, give Obama a break...grow-up, will YOU?

Thanks for the foundation of such a profound comment.

Potenciano, hmmm... is that Italian?


Obama fanatics don't get it. America doesn't want to hear about Obama anymore. They know he went to the church of hate - of America, and racisim -- for 20 years. I know, I know, black people think their racisim is excusable because they're victims. Wrong!

Steve Wimer:

I'm a Republican, and I'm not an Obama fanatic. As long as Obama fanatics are hurting Hillary's chances to win the Democratic ticket and exposing the Clintons of "what" they really are, - losers-.

I will never get tired of wanting to hear about Obama. Oh yes, there are millions more like me. I'm not even black...how about that?

Change your name to Steve Whiner.

clinton's well considered, but inconsiderate fabrication of that story relating herself as 'heroically' living through some 'dangerous' situation, was aimed at challenging mccain, as well as at contrasting obama. clinton falsely considered it 'safe' to tell those lies, plainly aware of mccain's whole career being built on similar, though arguably more fatal, phony fabrications he managed to (was allowed to) not only get away with, but even come out of highly decorated and seemingly unscarred. so far.

I am concern about voting a woman into office who conveniently forgets about the details of a trip she took twelve years ago, who takes credit for SCHIP even though no one could tell the specific role she played in that effort. If her accounts are inaccurate how do we trust her claim of experience? The only thing I know about her is that she became a US senator a couple of years before Barack.

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